Bookshelved Wiki: MagazineDesign

Chris Foges Magazine Design [ISBN 2880464501 (amazon.com, search)]

No idea if it is any good, but it is BookOnTheBookshelf, and so a legitimate page, and can serve as a tag for pages about magazines.

Periodicals have ISSNs, but there doesn't seem to be any free search avilable for them, you have to subscribe or buy the CD. Looking at copies here of the TimesLiterarySupplement and NewScientist?, I see that the barcode for each contains the ISSN, prefixed with 9770. This doesn't seem to be useful in an Amazon search, either. Anyone have any other ideas?

: It's a good idea as a tag. I'm a little disappointed that it's a BookOnTheBookshelf, and therefore not a circular reference...

Yeah, that would be nice. Unfortunately, as discussed above, magazines are non-trivial to search for. If anyone knows a magazine about magazines (there must be one), we could use that instead.

: There was, back in the middle of the 18th century, a "Magazine of Magazines". It didn't last long, it wasn't very good, and its only claim to fame is that it published Thomas Gray's famous "Elegy written in a country churchyard" without his permission. I don't think it was actually about magazines. There was an "Index to American Little Magazines", which turned into the "Index to Little Magazines"; I think it ceased publication in 1970 or thereabouts. Then there are things like "Mathematical Reviews", which publishes nothing but reviews of papers published in other learned journals. Is any of this any use?

Actually, I've found that a Google search for "[periodical-name] ISSN" returns some page with the periodical name and its ISSN. At least, this works for the periodicals I tried to search for. It's not guaranteed, but it's better than nothing. Can we have an [ISSN 00000000] tag? -- BrentNewhall

discussion moved from MarkDilley:

Laurent, what do you think about subfields, until a wiki gets up and running on them? One of the rules of the subfields could be there can't be any links, they are sort of independent now, later to explode into thier own wikis. . .? /MagazineRack? and /NewsPaper?

: But I was also recently exposed to the sub wiki idea of MagazineRack? or MagazineTheNation? or NewspaperTheNewYorkTimes?

I'm not entirely sure what you mean here. Do you suggest using the UseMod:SubPages feature ? If so, for what ? Thank you for your patience. -- lb

Correct - I am aware of at least these four ways to do subfields: either MarkDilley/Magazines? or Magazines/MarkDilley? or MagazineRack/TheNation? or MagazineTheNation? - I don't want to, nor do I think it would be acceptable to clutter BookShelved with this information if it could not be easily moved to another wiki (MagazineRack?, for example) - But I am interested in exploring ways to put the information here, again not to mess with the rules you have layed out, just exploring to see if it is possible. Thanks for your patience! -- md

You (and other bookshelvites) are making the rules. MarkDilley/MagazineRack? sounds like a fine idea to me. You're exploring a neat idea in what is essentially a sub-Wiki private to your page; that sounds cool. If you'd like to break out to a full-fledged UseMod:UseMod Wiki at some point, I can host you for a while on this server.

So far our SimpleRules wouldn't seem compatible with a page called Magazines or MagazineRack? unless that's the title of a book; then again, you make the rules (or break them). -- lb

OK, let's cut to the chase. There just so happens to be a book called MagazineDesign. That will do me. -- Keith

Keith, your idea is I start a page called Ms.? and put MagazineDesign as a tag on the page, This breaks the SimpleRules, of which I am fond of and makes this wiki unique! not sure I am for that, but would like to start a discussion about it before we go for it. -Best, MarkDilley on the other hand, it would be easy to move the pages to a peridical wiki if they are all tagged - - he thinks later. . .

I don't see it as breaking the SimpleRules, rather extending them in a natural and obvious way. I've already done the deed with TimesLiterarySupplement, that page seems perfectly in harmony with Bookshelved to me. More natural and obvious that using sub-pages to build something a lot like a [walled garden] intended to seed another wiki off this one, I'd suggest. [You aren't gonna need it], unless you really do want a wiki devoted to magazines alone, in which case why not go ahead start one? In any case, I'd further suggest that we could agonise for ever about the hypothetical benefits or problems of one scheme or another. Let's just have a go and and see what happens -- KeithBraithwaite

: I agree with Keith -- it's an extension of the rules, not a breaking. I don't think it's a case of expanding our focus to discuss all periodicals under the sun -- periodicals may come up in the discussion at times, and this just allows us the option of saying something about them should we wish to. -- tarquin

Have folks seen this yet? ---> [BookCrossing] -- kb or just go directly to [their site]

Sounds very interesting. They seem to have critical mass, but I had never heard of it before now. It needs further mulling before committment! -- MarkTilley

Seems to me it's way to PayItForward?.